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Buttermere Moss

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IMPORTANT - Restrictions on use 1. Please try to ensure Mr & Mrs Beard at Wilkinsyke Farm (NY176169) are notified prior to flying the site. They need to be able to shut their dog away for safe keeping whilst we fly. Phone: 017687 70237.

2. If you intend to land in fields around Buttermere Village:
Unless you definitely know which field we have been granted permission to use YOU MUST agree one with a farmer PRIOR to flying.
Ask Mr Kyle at Syke Farm/Café/Ice Cream Shop (NY176170) Phone: 017687 70277 (usually this is for the long narrow field behind and West of the Fish Inn).
Or ask Mr & Mrs Temple at Cragg House Farm (NY173171) Phone: 017687 70204 (they have fields next to the shore at the NW end of Buttermere Lake).
If you land elsewhere you may be accosted by a member of the Beard family, who have asked that we no longer land in any of their fields at any time, they are particularly sensitive during lambing time (end of March to early June).

3. If no permission for a landing field can be obtained then you will be restricted to landing at the foot of the fell - as shaded in orange on the site guide map. This is rougher ground than a field, but should be no issue for competent pilots (best check it on the ground beforehand if you've not used it before).
Last Updated : 28/08/2017 at 21:46 by Rick Livingstone
Wind : SW - WNW    
Nil Wind : No    
Grid Ref : NY187169 Height (AMSL) : 1725' / 526m
Site Code : none Top to Bottom : 1390' / 424m

Location

NW Lakes - Buttermere

Details

This site has lovely grassy flat-topped take off areas and big fields to land in (as long as you've asked permission).
The site makes for a very pleasant top to bottom if you haven't flown for a while.
Best flown in a true westerly.
Suitable for novice CPs as long as they don't stray from the site and they respect both windy days and strongly thermic days.
Excellent XC potential for the experienced.

Site Officer

Chris Little : 07966153668

Postcode for Sat Nav Systems (read the Health Warning!)

CA13 9XA - This is the closest mail delivery point to the flying site and is positioned at:

Buttermere Youth Hostel. Postcode point is 100 metres SE of youth hostel along B5289

Getting There

If heading from Keswick, drive west into Braithwaite. There, take the second left onto a narrow lane that eventually winds up Newlands Pass. At the top of this pass you normally park (NY193176) to walk up (see below). If you have 2 cars leave one in Buttermere Village and drive back up. If you only have one car, leave it in the village and walk east from NY179172.

Getting to takeoff

From the top car park, scramble up the steep path leading south. When the path levels out follow it SW to High Snockrigg and choose the best wind-facing slope (from top car park it is an, initially strenuous, 20 minutes walk).

Permission to use site

Take off is from the open fell land.
Valley landings thanks to:
Mr Kyle, Syke Farm/Café/Ice Cream Shop and Mr & Mrs Temple, Cragg House Farm.

Hazards

Keep an eye on the state of the lakes for an idea of how windy it is down in the valley, and for signs of the sea breeze approaching. On a thermic day the sea breeze may come in from the NW early afternoon, the site will continue working although with reduced lift. Care should be taken if flying in a SW moderate wind due to the big fells across the valley that will cause the conditions to become turbulent.

Suitable for novice CPs as long as they don't stray from the site and they respect both windy days and strongly thermic days.

If going XC: Before going deep into, or high over, the big mountains make sure you know what you're doing & where you are going. Otherwise fly in radio contact with a competent guide and ensure you don't lose height close downwind of summits or behind spurs thereby dropping into rotor and severe turbulence. If it's a windy day (over 10mph?) think twice before making committing moves! NOVICES BEWARE!!!

Take Off

A good site under the right conditions but can become very turbulent in the wrong conditions (see Hazard Notes).

This site has lovely grassy flat-topped take off and top landing areas.

The site makes for a very pleasant top to bottom if you haven't flown for a while.

Landing Areas

Excellent top landing area behind take off.

Large bottom landings fields in the valley PROVIDED you have permission! Please read restrictions section for more info.

Competent pilots can land back at the summit of Newlands Pass just north of the car park (provided the wind is not too strong); or at the foot of the fell to the east of Buttermere Village.

Flying

Best flown in a true westerly.

The site still flies well after the sea breeze comes in from the NW but has reduced lift.

XC potential

Buttermere Moss has excellent XC potential in amongst big mountains! The opportunities for exploring up and down the Lorton & Buttermere valleys and beyond are superb.
An out & return flight to Robinson, the big mountain 2kms to the east, is a potential XC training task.
Further afield, for experienced XC pilots, flights to Keswick by various routes are frequently achieved and it is possible to connect via Borrowdale across Thirmere and then up or down the Helvelyn range, with the rest of the eastern Lake District at your feet!

Photos

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General view of parking, ascent route and take off area.
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One of the take off areas. Essentially the top is a small plateau; choose the best take off spot depending on the wind direction.
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Looking down to the landing areas from take off. The rough ground area is between the 2 roads to the left of the parked cars. The other fields are behind the Fish Hotel, the prominent white building in the vee.
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Local Information - Pubs/Food etc

Nearest pubs to the site - for post flying debriefing only! You may find details of other facilities here

  Two pubs: The Fish & The Bridge
Grid Reference : NY175170
Distance from Site : 2.0 miles
Notes : Both pubs are in Buttermere Village. Both serve food.
  Click here to see the place in Google Street View

 

This page shows records for this site. Some of the older records are not very detailed. More recent records may have an igc file available You can right click and download this to your PC. You can then use IGC Flight replay to view the flight.

Paragliding
Turnpoint Flight  
Distance : 50.8km
Date : 22/05/2010
Pilot : Phil Colbert
Notes : See http://www.xcleague.com/xc/flights/20101005.html for details
IGC File : Right click to download
Hang Gliding

No hang gliding records available for this site

Data Resources

Follow the links to see the site in Google Earth and Google Street view. To access the former, you will need to have Google Earth installed on your PC. You can also upload your flights to GE - use GPS Dump (Links Page) to convert a variety of GPS file formats to a GE kml file.

Link Resource Type Notes
Google Earth Google Earth - Car Park
Google Earth Google Earth - Car Park 2
Google Earth Google Earth - Take Off
Street View Google Street View - Parking Newlands Hause parking. The track to take off is the (steep!) one on the right going directly up the nose.

Buttermere Moss Map

Legend

Buttermere Moss Map