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Buttermere Moss

Key Facts

Status : Amber
Status Message :
During the Covid19 period:
- Please be sensitive to local concerns: park with consideration, ensure you follow BHPA/government guidelines, respect requests of locals and avoid confrontation.
- Fly with greater safety margins than normal.
- If you do get involved in any dispute please inform the Site Officer as soon as possible.


IMPORTANT - Restrictions on use
If you intend to land in fields around Buttermere Village:
1. Unless you know which field we have been granted permission to use, then YOU MUST agree one with a farmer PRIOR to flying.
Ask Mr Kyle at Syke Farm/Café/Ice Cream Shop (NY176170) Phone: 017687 70278 (usually this is for the long narrow field behind and West of the Fish Inn).
Or ask Mr & Mrs Temple at Cragg House Farm (NY173171) Phone: 017687 70204 (they have fields next to the shore at the NW end of Buttermere Lake).
If you land elsewhere you may be accosted by a member of the Beard family, who have asked that we no longer land in any of their fields at any time, they are particularly sensitive during lambing time (end of March to early June).
2. If no permission for a landing field can be obtained then you will be restricted to landing at the foot of the fell (as shaded in orange on the site guide map and see photo). This is rougher ground than a field, but should be no issue for competent pilots, suggest pilots should reconnoiter the area on foot before landing here for the first time

Last Updated : 09/12/2020 at 19:50 by Rick Livingstone
Wind : SW - WNW Nil Wind : N
Grid Ref : NY187169 Height (AMSL) : 1725' / 526m
Site Code : none Top to Bottom : 1390' / 424m

Location

NW Lakes - Buttermere

Details

This site has lovely grassy flat-topped take off areas and big fields to land in (as long as you've asked permission).
The site makes for a very pleasant top to bottom if you haven't flown for a while.
Best flown in a true westerly.
Suitable for novice CPs as long as they don't stray from the site and they respect both windy days and strongly thermic days.
Excellent XC potential for the experienced.

Site Officer

Rick Livingstone : 07761187016

Access

Postcode for Sat Nav Systems

CA13 9XA

Buttermere Youth Hostel. Postcode point is 100 metres SE of youth hostel along B5289

Getting There

If heading from Keswick, drive west into Braithwaite. There, take the second left onto a narrow lane that eventually winds up Newlands Pass. At the top of this pass you normally park (NY193176) to walk up (see below). If you have 2 cars leave one in Buttermere Village and drive back up. If you only have one car, leave it in the village and walk east from NY179172.

Getting to takeoff

From the top car park, scramble up the steep path leading south. When the path levels out follow it SW to High Snockrigg and choose the best wind-facing slope (from top car park it is an, initially strenuous, 20 minutes walk).

XC potential

Buttermere Moss has excellent XC potential in amongst big mountains! The opportunities for exploring up and down the Lorton & Buttermere valleys and beyond are superb.
An out & return flight to Robinson, the big mountain 2kms to the east, is a potential XC training task.
Further afield, for experienced XC pilots, flights to Keswick by various routes are frequently achieved and it is possible to connect via Borrowdale across Thirmere and then up or down the Helvelyn range, with the rest of the eastern Lake District at your feet!

Permission to use site

Take off is from the open fell land.
Valley landings thanks to:
Mr Kyle, Syke Farm/Café/Ice Cream Shop and Mr & Mrs Temple, Cragg House Farm.

Briefing

Hazards

Keep an eye on the state of the lakes for an idea of how windy it is down in the valley, and for signs of the sea breeze approaching. On a thermic day the sea breeze may come in from the NW early afternoon, the site will continue working although with reduced lift. Care should be taken if flying in a SW moderate wind due to the big fells across the valley that will cause the conditions to become turbulent.

Suitable for novice CPs as long as they don't stray from the site and they respect both windy days and strongly thermic days.

If going XC: Before going deep into, or high over, the big mountains make sure you know what you're doing & where you are going. Otherwise fly in radio contact with a competent guide and ensure you don't lose height close downwind of summits or behind spurs thereby dropping into rotor and severe turbulence. If it's a windy day (over 10mph?) think twice before making committing moves! NOVICES BEWARE!!!

Take Off

A good site under the right conditions but can become very turbulent in the wrong conditions (see Hazard Notes).

This site has lovely grassy flat-topped take off and top landing areas.

The site makes for a very pleasant top to bottom if you haven't flown for a while.

Landing Areas

Excellent top landing area behind take off.

Large bottom landings fields in the valley PROVIDED you have permission! Please read restrictions section for more info.

If no permission for a landing field can be obtained then you will be restricted to landing at the foot of the fell (as shaded in orange on the site guide map and see photo). This is rougher ground than a field, but should be no issue for competent pilots. Pilots should reconnoiter suitability of area on foot before first landing

With care competent pilots can also land at the summit of Newlands Pass just north or west of the car park (beware wind venturi through the gap).

Flying

Best flown in a true westerly.

The site still flies well after the sea breeze comes in from the NW but has reduced lift.

XC potential

Buttermere Moss has excellent XC potential in amongst big mountains! The opportunities for exploring up and down the Lorton & Buttermere valleys and beyond are superb.
An out & return flight to Robinson, the big mountain 2kms to the east, is a potential XC training task.
Further afield, for experienced XC pilots, flights to Keswick by various routes are frequently achieved and it is possible to connect via Borrowdale across Thirmere and then up or down the Helvelyn range, with the rest of the eastern Lake District at your feet!

Buttermere Moss Map