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Swinside

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Status : OK
IMPORTANT - Restrictions on use 1. NEVER land in the fields immediately adjacent to, or immediately across the road from the farm named 'The Hope' on the site guide map; doing so will jeopardise permission to use the site.

2. Please keep out of the large field that extends up into the heather/fell side east of the 226 spot height (see site guide map). We are currently unable to gain permission to access this field, plus the drystone walls have been repaired such that there is now no access from the top of the field to the open fell.

3. NEVER, EVER CLIMB A DRY STONE WALL. Note that irresponsible pilots doing so in the past have nearly lost us this site!
Last Updated : Not recorded
Wind : WSW - NW    
Nil Wind : Yes    
Grid Ref : NY174243 Height (AMSL) : 1440' / 440m
Site Code : none Top to Bottom : 620' / 190m

Location

NW Lakes - N of Crummock Water

Details

Site guide last updated 29 April 2017

A beautiful site that can provide classic scenic Lakes flying and good XC options. Works best in W to NW winds, but can be flown OK in the more limiting WSW winds. Can sea breeze early, but will continue working although with reduced lift.

Suitable for novice CPs as long as they don't stray from the site and they respect both windy days and strongly thermic days.

Offers various XC opportunities from short first steps to full on epic mountain flights for the experienced.

Site Officer

Chris Little : 07966153668

Postcode for Sat Nav Systems (read the Health Warning!)

CA13 9UD - This is the closest mail delivery point to the flying site and is positioned at:

Millbeck. This house is half a mile SW of the Swinside parking area. From here you need to drive north 0.2 miles to the next road junction. Turn right here and drive up this road for just under half a mile. The car parking area is just after the gate going north (about 0.2 miles after 'The Hope' Farm).

Getting There

From Keswick take the B5292 off the A66 and head for Whinlatter Pass. About 1 km after the top of the pass turn left onto a narrow single-track road sign-posted 'Hopebeck'. Follow this round into the Lorton Valley and again turn left at the only junction.

Parking for Access Route 1:
There is a gate at map ref NY175252 (near the 257 spot height). It is possible to park on the wide roadside verge near here, BUT be sure you do not park opposite the gate or in any way that could hamper access for tractors or vehicles with trailers, and be prepared to obediently comply with requests from farmers WITHOUT ARGUMENT!

Parking for Access Route 2:
Drive through the first fell gate and descend to the parking area on the left just before the second fell gate (and just before 'The Hope' Farm - grid ref NY 169242)..

Getting to takeoff

Please keep out of the large field that extends up into the heather/fell side east of the 226 spot height (see site guide map). We are currently unable to gain permission to access this field, plus the drystone walls have been repaired such that there is now no access from the top of the field to the open fell.

Route 1
We have recently gained permission to more easily access the site and to land back in the field south of the 257 spot height. (see site guide map). From the gate near the spot height at map ref NY175252 walk south to the top of the field and through a sheep pen with two more gates. Then traverse the fell SW toward NY173245 where the dry stone wall meets the wire fence, which can be crossed here without causing damage. There are take offs around here, either side of the fence, suiting W to NW winds; in light winds, cross the fence and ascend the fell to the big flat take off area higher up.

Route 2
There is access all the way up to the top of the fell from the parking place ('P' on the map) and pilots may take off and land anywhere on this fellside above the road.
Take off is a direct ascent from the car park to above the heather line, so the walk up is hard! The best way (only obvious when you walk down) is to walk along the track SSE from the car park for around 100 metres. Look for 2 runnels going directly up the fell (see photo). Take the right hand runnel, after inspecting the landing area, and walk directly up the fell. Towards the top of the runnel (as seen in the photo) look closely for an indistinct track on the left going diagonally up the fell. This will take you steadily up although it peters out near the top. Get above the heather beds to find the grassy take off.

Permission to use site

Ms C England, The Hope. NY167240.
Mr W Shields & Family, Scales Farm. NY166254.
Mr J Hope, Cornhow Farm. NY151223.
Mr J Meadley, High Bewaldeth. NY224343

Additional Safety Notes

Take care in freshening winds as being blown back is not an option and there are limited escape areas if this happens.

Beware turbulence if you are losing height and might drop behind/downwind of Dodd (the small conical hill 1km SW of the site).

Inexperienced pilots should take care if slope landing on the steep fellside.

Suitable for novice CPs as long as they don't stray from the site and they respect both windy days and strongly thermic days.

If going XC: Before going deep into, or high over, the big mountains make sure you know what you're doing & where you are going. Otherwise fly in radio contact with a competent guide and ensure you don't lose height close downwind of summits or behind spurs thereby dropping into rotor and severe turbulence. If it's a windy day (over 10mph?) think twice before making committing moves! NOVICES BEWARE!!!

XC potential

See Briefing, Paraglider section

Paragliding

A beautiful site that can provide classic scenic Lakes flying.

Works best in W to NW winds, but can be flown OK in the more limiting WSW winds. Can sea breeze early, but will continue working although with reduced lift.

With increased landing areas this is now a classic site with easy, safe take offs and good landing options.

We now have permission to LAND in the following areas:
- At the foot of the fell above the Route 2 parking place.
- In any of the fields West and North West of the Hopebeck/Swinside/Whinlatter Road (apart from those fields immediately adjacent to 'The Hope' farm).
- In the field south of the 257 spot height (at the start of Access Route 1) - provided we do not unduly disturb any stock.

XC POTENTIAL
Opportunities for XC flying and exploring up and down the Lorton & Buttermere valleys and beyond are superb.
Short out & return XCs north onto Kirk Fell and south to Dodd and Whiteside are great XC starter routes.
Flights to Keswick by various routes are frequently achieved and it is possible to connect via Borrowdale across Thirmere and then up or down the Helvelyn range, with the rest of the eastern Lake District at your feet!

Hang Gliding

This guide used to say 'Not suitable due to big steep carry up and lack of suitable landing areas'. A hangie pilot has reviewed the new Access Route 1 and the landing field south of the 257 spot height and now considers the site much more suitable.

Photos

Click on the photo for a full size image.

An aerial view of the Swinside area looking S. The Swinside ridge is in the centre left with the wall running up it. You can see that there is a limited grass area between the wall and the bracken line. You must land on the open fell on this site, not in the fields. Photo reproduced with the permission of the copyright owner, Andrew McMahon. More pictures can be found on his web site.
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The car parking at Swinside is just by the lower gate on the fell. Park tidily as it's a bit cramped and it's used by walkers
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From the car park walk along the track past the landing area. You need to walk up the right hand of these 2 runnels. As you walk up look carefully for a track on the left traversing diagonally up the fell
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At take off looking NW. It helps to get above the heather!
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Looking down to landing which is in the region of the tent - mainly to the left. It does slope.
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The landing area looking SSE from just in front of the tent in the previous view
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Local Information - Pubs/Food etc

Nearest pubs to the site - for post flying debriefing only! You may find details of other facilities here

  The Wheatsheaf Inn, Low Lorton
Grid Reference : NY152263
Distance from Site : 2.0 miles
Notes : Serves food. Opening times variable mid week.
  Click here to go to the web site
  Click here to see the place in Google Street View

 

This page shows records for this site. Some of the older records are not very detailed. More recent records may have an igc file available You can right click and download this to your PC. You can then use IGC Flight replay to view the flight.

Paragliding
FAI Triangle  
Distance : 38.0km approx
Date : 1999
Pilot : Patrick Holmes
Open Distance XC  
Distance : 128.0km
Date : 01/06/2013
Pilot : Mike Cavanagh
Notes : Landing East Of Ripon Distance via 3 turn-points 134.2km
IGC File : Right click to download
Hang Gliding

No hang gliding records available for this site

Data Resources

Follow the links to see the site in Google Earth and Google Street view. To access the former, you will need to have Google Earth installed on your PC. You can also upload your flights to GE - use GPS Dump (Links Page) to convert a variety of GPS file formats to a GE kml file.

Link Resource Type Notes
Google Earth Google Earth - Car Park
Street View Google Street View - Parking The parking area at Swinside

Swinside Map

Legend

Swinside Map